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not cool to post these guys personal info. not cool at all.

EDITOR: The story has been released on various media outlets, but we have not identified the two individuals at all — no names, no university information, no links to their personal information.

So what's the big deal. All they do is pose and jo on Fratmen, at least that's all these two did. Nudity isn't a crime so I hope they don't get in trouble for it. Anyway, if they do, it was their choice and they should know someone would discover it.

Both guys pictures on Fratmen have been changed so their faces aren't showing and you can't click on them to see their pictures and videos anymore. It looks like the Queerclick editors were right in assuming that Fratmen would take their stuff down.

I think its hot that they're both wrestlers! totally horned up about this! I actually think its great to know a bit more about porn stars lives and its cool that no personal details are revealed :)

WOW! They are so cute! It would be great if they do some wrestling on Fratmen!

Great scoop QC! Love it! and LOVE them even more too!!!!!!!!!

I want to see Nat and Cal wrestling naked now LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope that this doesn't cause these two any real hardship, just as I think it's unfortunate that Fratmen has decided to (apparently) remove the videos from the site. What these two guys did hurt no one, is not illegal, and (were it not for this anonymous source--who's the true irresponsible party in all of this, in my opinion) would likely never have been found out by anyone they normally come into contact with. I suspect the reason that the wrestling administration will give for any punitive actions will be something along the lines that these two somehow brought dishonor or embarrassment upon the sport. Not true. The shame is all our own, for aiding and abetting a culture in which normal and natural expressions of sexuality among consenting adults is somehow seen not only as immoral or embarrassing, but as grist for the mill of the public morality squad. It's just unfortunate all around.

Fratmen should do a wrestling special with these two it would be totally AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is for (BD) its still on the site, I copied and saved photos so I can have it before they do take it down completely. I think you have to be a member(?) to see it I also downloaded both of there videos.

And please DON'T ask for me to send them out I join the website and you should too. (In other words I paid for it so can everybody else!!!) Not to sound like a BITCH. Buts that how i feel.How does QC find stuff out like this?? (But its HAWTTTTTT!!!!)

FM must have some damn GOOD recruitor(s) to get these guys!!!!! AND YES THERE STUFF IS STILL ON THE SITE!!

Gotta say, physical-wise, neither guy has anything to be ashamed of. They are both stunning, especially the first guy. He's possibly the most-perfect specimen ever featured on this site, and the 37 comments pretty much attest to that. He has a truly beautiful face, and his tool is jaw-dropping. They'll both be getting a lot more dates after these photos are seen. And the other guys on the team only WISH they looked as good as these two studs.

They should have known the risk, but what is the harm and why should they be punished for what they did?

Hey JJJ: If a guy is going to pull down his pants for internet viewing, why do you seem to voice expectation of privacy?

These guys have nothing to be ashamed of and everything to be proud of.

Poverty and guns are problems, not hot young wrestlers rubbing one out on camera.

1. I feel sorry that we still in a soceity where showing off your body can get you in trouble when you only showing to other consenting adults who want to enjoy it.

2. I hope that Simon Rex's example (heck even Paris Hilton and Pam Anderson) show that one can survive a sex scandal, but being part of the Hollywood community (and already rich) and being a college wrestler just trying to eek out some extra scratch are worlds apart. Like Rex, these guys only did solos and nothing to "dishonor" their masculinity or the masculinity of wrestlers in a heterocentric world.

3. It is too bad this was discovered now. I would have hoped to see more of "Nash" over at Fratmen. Now I am sure it will be a one tape situation, which is too bad, because making one video or fifty has the same scandalous results.

4. Careers as coaches are off the table.

5. I hope we get to a point where this is something of a non-issue in our world. But, until then, no one should be making videos that will later have reason to regret (or be ashamed of) it.

6. I wish both fellas the best in thier immediate drama and in their lives.

Hey guys... If these men are NCAA athletes (which is still an 'if' since we haven't confirmed any of this), they have the NCAA code and almost certainly a school ethics/morals code as part of the athletic program that could get them into trouble as far as the team goes. If these guys are on full ride scholarships, then they probably have clauses that frown on them having jobs. The ethics/moral codes have pretty broad language about this stuff. Pretty much anything that can bring discredit to the program, is morally questionable, or prurient behavior can make them subject to suspension, loss of scholarship, or kicked off a team. These codes are designed to keep the attention on the athletic program, keep athletes as role models, and also to keep donor money coming to a program or school. Anyone else that is (was) a NCAA guy can attest to this information. It's very similar to the rules that can subject Army guys to punishment even if they just masturbate online and don't do anything that represents homosexual conduct.

EDITORS: QueerClick has confirmed these two are indeed NCAA athletes at a major university.

Both of these guys are great looking and have terrific bodies, of which they can be justly proud.

There should be no shame or dishonor in sharing these glories, but of course the prudes will make a big deal of it.

Hard to believe "Nash" is only 125lbs. He looks...bigger. I wonder how tall he is?? QC, do you know?

I really have no pity for these guys. They made their choices. If you do porn, people will find out. I think being in the public eye (such as a national wrestling champion), celebrity, in the military, or some high profile job, you take a risk doing porn.

"EDITORS: QueerClick has confirmed these two are indeed NCAA athletes at a major university."

God-damn! Why don't you just shout "We hope they're ruined!" You really are delving into bashing.

EDITORS: We hope the best for these guys. This news is/will be spread all across the web (television stations, major newspapers, etc.), so we're reporting what has happened. We stand by our policy to not report personal details of models, no matter what has been reported in the mainstream news.

I just joined SITE these are some HAWWWWWTTT boys and this goes to show us Fratmen.tv has REAL hot guys and they get the best guys.

I still dont know how they got 2 national champion wrestlers to do this type of work?

Kudos to the scouting TEAM!

Message to FM scouting team"I have a request for a model"

Justin Timberlake( please!!)

The tattoo matches - go figure, Dissapointed in you Queerclick - the impact on these boys future in wrestling could be huge! Leave thgis sort of stuff to trashy tabloids

EDITORS: As we've said, this has been reported by mainstream television stations and newspapers. From what we understand, a fellow student's blog reported the two's involvement in porn. QC is not the reason these two are being investigated by their university.

is that sweat dripping down his balls ? (all these bitches crawl?)

FYI - Just one of these was a Nat'l Champion wrestler. I went to this university...

went to the site, pics are super hott

I am saddened that the news has gotten out about these young men. It is this type of thing that will prevent other hot young men from sharing their beauty with the world.

Its really unfair to suggest that the QC editors are in any way responsible for this. I won't say which one, or what the school was, but one of these guys actually wore the school logo in his shoot. I remember seeing it and thinking, "this isn't going to stay up long."

Nevermind that the one guy has some... revealing... photos on his facebook page, and his school newspaper broke the story already.

My bet, they'll give up the NCAA scholarship and pay their way with porn proceeds. (or at least that's my wish.)

You know....... college boys, will be college boys. Think about your college years. I know I did some home made porn in my college days and would have gladly done porn. Lots of guys have and will do this in there late teens and early twenties. After all , all these models have "private" lives. They go to school, have girlfriends, work and all the other normal stuff people do.They were not just 'created" for us to whack off to.It does suck that they will have to be judged by this.What really sucks is the judgemental world we live in and being so fucking "hyper connected". I think QueerClick is reporting news , here and not exploiting.

At least we know for sure Fratmen uses real college studs!!!!!

I don't care.

I want the Coach instead. Hopefully he'll end up on Sean Cody next week. I'll join. :)

I don't understand why QC takes the fall. It's not brain science... all anyone has to do is Google to find out what is going on here. These guys are both adults and they made their choices knowing full well that their pics and videos would easily spread across the internets. Um... hello? Isn't that sort of the point? "Nash" in particular made his choice after becoming a public figure by winning the NCAA title so what's the big deal?

Stand your ground Nash and stand proud you sexxxy batch!

Fiji awaits! ;)

Thanks QC. Proves why this site is so great. As for the men in question, no sympathy, they knew if they did porn they could get discovered and knew if it would be acceptable or not.

I know who these guys are and their real names (as I posted when Nash's vid first came out) and of course, I refused to give people any personal info. about these guys after repeated requests. One has a right to privacy so these real life problems don't occur. I wonder who turned this into the university. QC says it kept out private info. on the guys, which I greatly respect, but the tatoos reveal personal info. and SHOULD NOT be shown (which is why Fratmen tried to hide them in the shooting of the vids). Yes, they were paid to do something they chose to do, but they are real people with real educations/careers at stake now that the connection between the fantasy characters and real athletes has been publicly broadcast. Something to think about with these guys in general.

So were these videos taken down for good? Even on the member's only site? Or were they just taken down for the (public) preview site?

EDITOR: Hey Jason, just checked and the videos and pictorial spreads are still on site. Better hurry along now!

"Nash" sure likes showing off... nice facebook profile pic... thanks buddy!

If you are a true fan of wrestling, its actually easy to figure out the school these guys are from.

Literally young, dumb and full of cum. Has anyone else read about the Hungarian wrestler who was banned from the Olympics for his porn past? Haven't found out if it was gay or nongay porn, but he's cute.

I'm glad some people are cutting QC slack on reporting this story. It is of direct interest to QCers. I heartily thank QC.

Surprising to find out the story broke on a campus gossip site. Almost the same two stories appear all over the web with names, univeristy I.D. and such.

Even though a lot of jocks may be frightened away from doing porn by this incident, Fratmen has certainly become a more common buzzword. We may actually see a bumper crop of beauties come forward to claim the porn award for being pretty: cash!

Dear QC: I heart u.

EDITOR: Thanks Steve! We strive to be the best for you guys. =)

Their coach is hot, too. Maybe a three way...?

QC is not the blame!!! great Job QC.. and Fratmen continue to bring us HAWWWWTTTT guys!!!

Fratmen Recruiters ROCK!!!

I happen to go to the college everybody is talking about and I really dont see what they did is wrong. I see these guys from time to time. But I do recall another college had this problem (football team) it was also posted on here (QC) but it wasnt porn its was personal pics he was sending out to (Girls) and he happen to send it to a girl/guy. (anyways)

My question to all this is how or why would 2 national champions do this? They have so much to lose if discovered.

My other question is how do you ask somebody to do this type of work?

I'm willing to bet there are more of Nash Team-mates did this also and fratmen hasnt release there images due to the buzz thats has accured? (could be wrong...) Nash a national champion, Cal a national champion . They could of influence the whole team.

ESPN has been covering the story as well. This is a huge issue at the college those guys attend. Nash and Cal are both excellent wrestlers and great people.

But everytime I see them. (those fratmen pictures start going thru my mind)

I just didnt know Nash has a BIG DICK! if you seen him in real life he doesnt look like he has a big one.

Look at the photos on fratmen, he has to have a 8 inch cock and thats the hot part about all of this.

And yes fratmen i'm a new member as of 15 minutes ago. (this is my first porn site i paid for) I normally use xtube. but this is hot!

thanks QC and Fratmen.tv

this has to be the most happenin BUZZ in adult porn history??

(qc editor please keep us updated on whats happening like you been doing)

i dont get paid till friday and i will join but i'm not going to join if its has been taken down.

thanks qc

EDITOR: We'll release information as soon as we have it.

Is it me or does the Coach look the hottest out of all.

Great job QC, and I'm anxiously looking forward to any further investigations on this matter. What I don't understand is why did Fratmen need to take down their pictures / videos from their site, when they (Fratmen) clearly acquired the rights to them (the pics/videos) legally with consent from the adult models themselves. They have any right to show them and milk this exposure as much as they'd like! Anyone?

EDITOR: Fratmen is run by a stand-up group of guys, so we assume they are doing damage control for their guys. Most studios will try to minimize exposure when models have been outed on a national level so family and friends don't find the videos.

QC editor thats great that FRATMEN are sticking up for there models.

Most companies wouldnt do this.

Fratmen in my eyes are a CLASS ACT SITE!

FYI- the vids and photos are still on the site as of (8/11)

Thanks Editors for all the updates.

I just wanted to throw in my two cents after downloading their video from the Fratmen member-only site. :)

IMHO, the only reason that Nash and Cal are catching so much flack for their porn video is because every horned-up guy knows there is a disconnect between porn and reality. When we discover a connection between the two, alarm bells go off. Porn sites do a good job of protecting their models, so all we see is a piece of meat beating off. But when we find out their name, school, etc (of course not from QC, but from other "sources"), we go crazy.

Throw in the fact that everyone at their school is a peeping tom/curious about it and it adds up to a critical mass of excitement.

Just my two cents.

QC, I applaud the way that you have handled this new story. The news agencies reporting this story have not been as kind to these two kids, whose college wrestling careers are probably over. Those news agencies, including Outsports.com gave the students names, their school, hometown, and the name of the website they were on. Student athletes can do drugs, beat up their girlfriends, rape young women, cheat in their classes, etc., but when it comes to being on a gay porn site, I doubt the school will be as lenient. As someone who works at a major university and understand how these things work, I feel for these kids. Athletes can get away with most anything, but porn is probably not one of them.

(jec1918)- Very nice post.

I hope nothing happens to these boys; but if it does they can transfer to Fratmen Univ.?

Qc thanks for keeping us updated on everything.

VIDS AND PHOTOS ARE STILL UP ON THE SITE FOR EVERYBODY INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!

You've misidentified the coach in that pic above. He's the dude in the white, not the blue. And as hot as the boys are, that coach is even hotter. Wish we had pics of him instead.

Damn! P has a pair of testicles hanging between his legs that i could suck on forever! Mmmm-mmmm-mmmm!

He sure makes for one very fine horny exhibitionist.

The scent of his scrotum must be the ambrosia of the gods!

And K is pretty sexy as well.

Ha ha! I'm downloading all of P's wrestling vids from Youtube while they're still there. Nothing like seeing him in genuine wrestling action!

I'm in lo-o-o-ve...
And this time, it's for real!

Oh yeah! An incredibly fine and sexy, horndog wrestler! Things couldn't possibly get any sweeter than that!

Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash.

the coach is hott, they need to recruit him as well(?)

I have always wondered what negative effects these pictures and videos will have on these young men later on in their lives. While society has loosened up a bit it is still far from accepting of gay porn. I don't think these guys think it through beforehand. They don't take into account that these picture will probably surface with friends, family, school, or career in the future. There is always some nosey asshole who finds something on the internet and has to share it with the world. I guess these wrestler boys probably won't be running for political office in the future. Well, in San Francisco, maybe.

Cal doesn't do a thing for me, but Nash! Schwing!! I wanna get Nashty with him. I wish them both luck.

I'm glad I downloaded both videos from Frat already.

I really dont think they are going to take it down, cause it would of been taken down already.

Everybody knows already. By taken it down doesnt make it go away.......

CAL AND NASH ARE BOTH HOTTIES!!!!(the thought of REAL wrestlers showing there goods)

I bet BOTH girls and guys are all over them. (I would!!!)

They should hae done a better job covering the tat on Nash's thigh.

The NCAA rules don't allow for the images of their athletes to be used to make money, with a few exceptions. These guys knew what they were doing and now have jeopardized not only their wrestling careers but also their teams standing.

Yes they are beautiful. But by getting it up for Fratmen, they let down their entire team.

No matter what people say. These guys ROCK!!!

Way to go fratmen for getting some (real) models just image if they got these guys; in the near future a real celebritiy is going to be on there site. ( fratmen can get high value models if they got these guys)

The situation is sad if these guys get kick off the team, but i must agree with everybody else " they new what they was getting themselves into" agree? or agree to disagree?

Its nobodys fault but theres, we as porn subscribers have to very lucky to see and witness this moment? We can say all the bad things about these guys about letting there team down and college but at the end of the day " we still all look at it and get off to it"

so who is wrong?

Things are not looking good for these guys' eligibility...

from the NCAA:

"A student-athlete is ineligible for participation if the individual accepts any remuneration for or permits the use of his or her name or picture to advertise, recommend or promote directly the sale or use of a commercial product or service of any kind; or the individual receives remuneration for endorsing a commercial product or service through the individual’s use of such product or service."

So, the fact that they went to a gay porn site adds to the salaciousness of it all, but the same result could occur if they had been doing promotional work for a car dealership.

Cry not for thee...the NCAA specifically addresses these sorts of things and believe you me all athletes are regularly made aware of these rules.

I read on some blog about Fratmen cooperating with school, thats good to hear.

So what?

Why is everyone jumping on QC's back about reporting this??? They have already stated numerous times that they havent released any personal info etc etc.. If you dont like it.. then dont come to QC, simple as that. And personally i dont know why everyone is making a big deal about it. Its 2008 ffs

It appears there is some type of "investigation" or "inquiry" at their university of choice. I would be curious as to the subject of the inquiry. Is it that the athletes are using their bodies for personal financial gain, rather than allowing the university to exploit their bodies for the university's purposes?

I think the boys wrestling career is OVER! unless they worked for FRATMEN for free? Qc is not the blame they are doing there JOB! To keep us inform on the situation.

Keep up the great reporting...

DOES ANYBODY HAVE A UPDATE ON THIS WHOLE SITUATION?

EDITORS: So far, little has happened with this situation, but we'll be publishing an update as soon as we have more information.

Poor ol' P and K. Some busybody snitched on the fact that they have horndog testicles like most guys do, and now these two guys have pesky nuisance problems they could well do without.

The only real solution to this is to have every single guy castrated! With no testicles, guys won't have thoughts that cause them to behave in ways that are filthy, dirty, and disgustingly nasty!

Castration, GOOD! Testicles, BAD!

(And yes, that's total sarcasm.)

How does the NCAA have the gall to tell people what they can do?

If people aren't using the NCAA name in a way that's copyright/trademark infringement, then what people do isn't realistically any of the NCAA's personal business.

Idiotic rules are made up by a multitude of Miss Grundys who are terrified by their own shadow and even more terrified by the fact that guys have balls hanging between their legs, and then everyone else is supposed to pretend these rules are the Laws Of The Universe, ex cathedra.

Poor K. He looks like he had been in one hell of an accident. He has some major scarring going on.

Thanks for the update QC.. It seems like FM is trying to help both sides out. (for the best solution without getting the boys in trouble?)

But if they get cleared to wrestle, this means others will follow and there will be some hot updates in the future(?)

I don't feel sorry for these guys at all. Anyone who takes their clothes off (and then proceedes to ejaculate) for the camera is pretty much marking themselves for life. When your naked body is public domain, it WILL eventually come back and haunt you! Moral of the story: unless you are seeking a full time career in porn, then don't do these things. I'm sure their wrestling aspirations were already in their heads before Fratmen got a look at them naked.

SCREW WRESTLING AND JUST BE PORNSTARS!!!!!!!!!!!

(they can always go to another college)

After college were does this sport lead them?

Answer- Porn........ they just got a headstart on there career?

Qc do you know you are the only blog covering this story?(well you got alot more info than others)

and I must say your doing a "DAMN GOOD JOB!"

tks Qc

Request:

Michael Phelps the USA Swimmer is there any way you guys can get him to model for Fratmen? Hell you got 2 National Champion Wrestlers? He will get deff. get a GOLD medal from me..

Huskers dismiss 2 wrestlers accused of posing nude

By ERIC OLSON – 49 minutes ago

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — Two Nebraska wrestlers have been dismissed from the team after allegedly posing naked on an Internet pornography site.

Nebraska wrestling coach Mark Manning said Paul Donahoe and Kenny Jordan are permanently off the team. Manning says their behavior doesn't reflect the team's standard of excellence.

Manning apologized in a statement for any embarrassment caused for the athletic department, the university and fans.

i don't understand why this is such a scandal, is this normal in america?

I'm sure they'll have more fun at USC or UCLA or some other college where jacking off isn't followed by a trip to the confessional. I'll bet that just about every college going aside from Oral Roberts University is presently driving a big truck of cash up to their doors right now.

Full Steam Ahead, boys... God loves you even if a bunch of corn farmers don't.

The AP confirms their dismissal. But how is it different than other athletes that appear on sports magazine covers? That's commercial use as well.

According to the schools website - 'Nash' was a senior this past school year, right?

If he's graduated from college, then what's the big deal?

I just read the story..... The owner of the site has some valid points.

Going somewhere else to wrestle is going to be hard, cause this will follow them.

If they were on scholarship are they going to have to pay all that money back(?) ones a SR. the other is a JR.

But the blame is not QC nor Fratmen.tv

Both guys HAVE to look in the mirrior and just say look what (I) have done...

But my wish is to go back to fratmen and get a healthy modeling contract and just say FUCK IT!!

That Nash is just gorgeous, an Adonis if u ask me. It'd be such a shame if this really terminates his college opportunities and his buddy's. The only way to my knowledge the university could justify punishing them is if they signed a morality clause upon joining the team or the wrestling team (than again I didn't study law so I can't say for sure). And it would still be exaggerated since they weren't wearing or saying anything that would tie them to the university.

CNN and Sports Illustrated have just reported that the two wrestlers have been thrown off the team of their University.

"Paul Donahoe and Kenny Jordan were let go Tuesday, three days after a blog posted images of them taken from Fratmentv.com, a Web site featuring naked or partially clothed male athletes."

Did you get that, Queerclick? "...after a BLOG posted images of them..."

You've ruined their careers.

EDITOR: You're kidding, right? The blog that outed these two was The Scarlet Project, a blog about gossip on the University of Nebraska campus. QC kept their personal information out of this post until it was widely reported in mainstream media. We had nothing to do with their dismissal.

Please get your facts straight before throwing around accusations.

L4L:
Highly unlikely. They would have been booted for violating NCAA rules, which means they can't compete ANYWHERE anymore. Attending college may be problematic as such if the guys were on athletic scholarships, because they would have been counting on that money to attend any college. It has nothing to to with the moral constraints of the midwest at all; it's all about the "amateur athlete" rules put in place by the NCAA. Any athlete that is on scholarship can't have certain jobs or anything that even remotely smacks of a commercial endorsement. It's why you don't see too many college athletes on Wheaties boxes, to say nothing of porn sites.

These guys can compete at another university, but they will have to get permission from the NCAA. I'm sure there are other universities who would like to have national champion wrestlers on their team. Though from other new sources it does look like this is not the first trouble these two have gotten into. They had several other transgressions during their college wresting careers. Athletes can generally get past most any kind of scandal.

If another college doesn't work out, they could have a good career in porn if they would go beyond just doing solos. That way they could attend college without the wrestling scholarships.

Even AOL News' welcome page is reporting on this and to update you all the coach at Nebraska kicked them off the team tonight.

Vanessa Williams had to give back her crown too when it was revealed that she had shown her pussy to Penthouse. Peewee Herman's show was cancelled after he was caught jerking off at a porno theater. If a person is seeking to be an athlete, or to be in a field that will bring them any kind of medium/high profile attention, then WHY would they do porn? That was just moronic. Of course the association/league is embarrassed. It's embarrassing and stigmatizing. Now that this is out, would anyone focus on these guys wrestling prowess...or would people instead chuckle, sneer, or turn their nose up at the fact that there's media of them with their aroused genitals exposed & douced in cum? Then there are sponsers to consider. If a team has a member (or members) who moonlights in the field of "adult entertainment," then they will also become known for that...and there is a good chance that the sponsers might opt to back the other team that doesn't. Why would I want my child idolizing someone whose google search stands an equal chance of returning images of them naked as it would of them in their team uniform? I think these guys were foolish and naive. Too naive.

now it's even linked on Drudge - and using their real names - poor dudes.

OMG, this is all so FRONT RUNNER (Patricia Nell Warren's classic novel about college sports and homophobia).

I really love the quote about "a blog" publishing pictures of them. Anyone with sense would know that QC isn't "a blog," but it's "THE blog." QC editors have handled the accusations i a very level-headed way. Sounds like Fratmen have too.

Now that adolescent behavior has been allowed to follow people into their 30s, it's so difficult to let adults learn their lessons, consider the consequences of their actions, and assume personal responsibility. If that happened, the porn industry might be seriously impacted with a lack of participants.

I am grateful there are hot boys who have no idea of their future plans, who are willing to bare it and share it.

It's heartbreaking that the coach is digging up past infractions and waving them around as proof these guys are bad seeds. I bet there are plenty of other college athletes scared-shitless that their porn dalliances might be uncovered. I know porn scouts do best in resorts like Vegas or Spring break destinations, where students might want to pick up extra cash -- call it the fruits of impaired judgment.

As for the boys' parents being horrified, that could be a little scary.
The end of their wrestling careers is sad, because this could also mean the end of future coaching opportunities. Has anyone seen Paul Donohoe's wrestling clinic on YouTube? He really connects with the kids.

FYI chaz...

vanessa williams did not pose for penthouse. She posed for an independant photographer that took artistic nudes of her, not pornographic nudes. But when she won Miss America, the photographer sold the photos to Penthouse.

And PeeWee Herman's playhouse was done LONG before he was caught jerking off in a theater.

Anyway, I think this is ludicrous. Its a FREAKIN COLLEGE WRESTLING TEAM! They are NOT running for public office. So, they showed their dicks on a site... SO WHAT?!? What does that have to do with wrestling?

And why are they painting them to be problem kids... they listed a college kid offense of being caught with an open container?!?!?!? THAT IS EVERY COLLEGE STUDENT EVER KNOWN TO MAN!!!! That is so ridiculous, that I cant even believe they quoted that like he had a criminal past...

This story is sad and stupid. Its so crazy to me how we fight for FREEDOM here in this country and tyrannize other countries forcing them to transform to our way of life... when we are becoming more of a communist-like society every day. Forcing our religious and moral codes on all of our citizens. Punishing them for exercising our RIGHT TO FREEDOM...

This whole story is just upsetting. I feel bad for those boys.

Michael Phelps can keep his Lazer swimsuit on, no thanks.

The NCAA, from what we can figure, agrees with John Marsh from Fratmen that they didn't do anything wrong. They kept their identities secret which didn't break their contract. Another school will snatch those two up and they can wrestle for a school that wants good athletes more than squeaky-clean role models for sunday school kids. Fuck Nebraska.

i feel really bad for these dudes.

I feel really bad for the young men as well. Hopefully, they can recover and move on from this. As PrincerP stated, they kept the identities secret and from what I can understand, having never seen it myself, Fratmentv.com has no man-on-man sex.
The PURITANS are a coming....

So messed up. Well I hope they weren't on scholarship and have funds to cover their expenses.

good luck to these dudes.

I feel really sad for the two guys from NU. Yes we all have done stupid stuff and naughty stuff as well. I can't imagene what the guys are going through right now. It was rough for me to come out of the closet years ago and i didn't even do any porn photos. I really am thankful for those in the porn industry in risking their lives with the non porn world. I couldn't imagine what i would do if it weren't for those post out there in Qc. These 2 guys from NU needs our support. perhaps a signed letter from all of the members who want to sign such a document. I wonder what skeletons are in the closets of the officials at Nebraska University. I am sure they have them most of us do. I'm not trying to get religious now but lets keep the boys in a prayer. They need us just like we have needed them at times,

Now, that Paul has been discarded and no longer wanted, can *i* have him? I really like short guys with big dicks and excellent sucking testicles.

I don't care if he is sloppy seconds.

I promise to take good care of him. Honest, i will...!
Paul is my one true love, forever and ever!
Or at least his balls will think so and know so, and that works for me! Where his balls go, his heart will soon follow. And i refuse to ever betray another man's heart and soul.

Kenny, Kenny, Kenny... tisk tisk tisk...
Charged with assault?
You better have a really good and legitimate reason why that's so... I can sort of overlook someone being a lush, but beating up on other people without a damn good reason why is not really acceptable.

What other site is run by Marsh? Are these two on them?

I hope FRATMEN signs these guys to a Modeling Contract, it would be only right?

Fratmen.tv RULES!!!!

/QUOTE Jordan has paid fines for possessing or consuming alcohol as a minor, trespassing and assault, and Donahoe for maintaining a disorderly house and having an open alcohol container. /END QUOTE

There are a lot of infantile people around in this world.
"an open alcohol container" How else could he drink. Dumbo's

I think they run fratmen.tv and fratpad.com

and they are only on fratmen.tv

The videos of both guys are HAWWWTTTT!!

As of this morning, I could still download pics and videos as a member with Quick Time Pro. My prediction is that we will eventually see them again on Fratmen or other sites, assuming they leave collegiate wrestling.

perezhilton wrote an article about them already, they are screwed.

Thes guys will be lengendary FRATMEN 4 LIFE!

Nash u got me all WET!!!

One thing FRATMEN can say is they have REAL college men and guys that are in sports from popular schools.

I'm willing to bet they have more stuff, i'm deff going to stay in tune to all of this.

I just did the 6 month sign-up

I am so fed up of these nonsense accusation to QC. For over 4 years of knowing QC...I've never seen QC shows someone split's identity without protect their real one. QC is not Perez Hilton, nobody is "out" or criticized (think about how QC stands for Jake Cruise). I was quite nauseous when #81 Angry Man mistaken QC for some kind of random blog that's responsible for these mindless kids' careers. Thanks God that QC beats it by pointing the real Judas in here. Eat that, Angry Man (who actually was drooling all over his floor when heard about the news)!!!!

I really think all this condemnation by people on here is so fucking hypocritical.

Do I feel bad for them because of all the shit they're having to endure right now? Yes.

Do I feel it was realistic for them to think that stuff posted on the net was EVER going to be a well kept secret? No.

Do they deserve to get kicked from any activities for doing something completely legal? No.

Do I, or anybody else for that matter, have a right to say that they got what they deserved? Only if we want to be a bunch of hypocrites. Support them when they're performing and dump on them when they run into trouble for doing NOTHING wrong?

Having said that - I've seen both models and while I DO feel bad for their troubles of late I can only feel so much sympathy for a couple of guys who are THAT hot. I'm not saying they don't deserve sympathy...I'm just saying they have it better than they realize.

I hope that the fouder of Fratmen will establish a fund that people can contribute to in order to help these two guys finish their education. My guess is the loss of their athletic scholarships is part of the deal -- and since both are out-of-state students, tuition will be quite high. Way to to go, University of Nebraska. We are such an amazingly hypocritical society. As for the comments about them being "problem" students -- a disorderly living premise?? Give me a break.

NASH rocks! i just got my rocks off watching the video.
Never heard of the site fratmen.tv but i just bookmarked it and put it in my favorites.

I'm a new member. who will it be next week (Mario Lopez???) yummy!!!!!!

NaSh Is A HoTtIe!!!!! (MoRe PlEaSe!!!)

Some of you that are pretending these guys are "victims" and the society (the University of Nebraska as part of that society) is just filled with "Puritans" totally missed the issue. These guys accepted money from someone using their image while a student at an NCAA institution. That is a violation of NCAA rules. As a college athlete myself, I can tell you that you are made aware of the many, many NCAA rules and regulations on a regular basis. I can't have someone give me $5, legally, to get a slice of pizza. The University of Nebraska had no choice. As far as them posing nude or making a video, that is a value call on the part of the University. Guys, standards of behavior are what bring order to a society, no matter how small those standards seem. I may not like obeying the speed limit but if an officer catches me, I will get a ticket. These guys knowingly and willingly took the risk, they got caught, they got punished. If you're an athlete and you lose the right to participate in your sport ever again, you know the pain that causes. But as an athlete, you're held to a standard set by the University and most importantly, the NCAA. If you don't live up to those standards, you're out.

I wouldn't be surprised if the "anonymous" leak was someone from Fratmen/Fratpad. Think of the publicity those sites are getting now :) Good PR move for them?

EDITORS: We'd be very surprised if Fratmen had anything to do with this. They're stand up guys and would do anything to protect the privacy of their models. This is going to make recruiting future models more difficult because all eyes will be watching to see if more collegiate athletes turn up on the site.

This was a clear violation of NCAA rules. To anyone who is bashing the University of Nebraska, or the midwest for that matter, this has nothing to do with gay/straight or even porn. There are a large number of gay and lesbian athletes and coaches at the University of Nebraska, currently and in the past. This is all about the NCAA rules regarding amateur athletes. If you get paid for having your picture taken, you lose your elgibility. Period. They are not being kicked out of school. They became ineligible to play in NCAA athletics and therefore were kicked off the team and will lose their scholarships as well.

NCAA athletes are not allowed to receive compensation for any kind of photographs. They are not allowed to be in a shoe commercial, let alone porn. They are not even allowed to work at all--even at a retail store--during the school year, and the type of work they are allowed to do during the summer is highly regulated as well. (So that boosters cannot hire them and overpay them for doing nothing.) Look at what is happening to Reggie Bush possibly having to give back his Heisman Trophy, the Oklahoma football players who got kicked off the team for working at a car lot, Bo Jackson not being allowed to play baseball his senior year, and SMU losing their entire football program for two years. Technically, as a college athlete, you are not even allowed to let your friend's parents take you out for dinner, because it is considered a "gift."

As for the porn aspect, I imagine that even if these kids had not gotten paid for their work, they probably would have been kicked off the team for violating team rules--not because it was a gay site, but because they are representing the university. A female athlete posing for Playboy and not getting paid would probably also get kicked off the team. You can get kicked off of a college team for any number of reasons--from drugs, to drunk driving, to an Oklahoma football player who recently got kicked off the team for making a YouTube video rapping about guns.

These two athletes are completely to blame for this. They knowingly broke NCAA rules and have to accept the consequences. That is the one rule which you absolutely cannot brake--receiving payment of any kind, outside of an approved summer job. The one kid had a Nebraska Wrestling tatoo on his leg and his name tatooed down his side--and he is a national champion. What was he thinking? It would take anyone 30 seconds to google his name and Nebraska to find out who he is. He's an absolute idiot for doing that.

The response from the owner of FratmenTV is also ludicrous. It has nothing to do with the University of Nebraska being "pigheaded." And the owner of the site is just as responsible for this happening as the athletes are for participating. Whether or not he knowingly or willingly violated NCAA rules or not, he is the one who recruited and paid college athletes for his own personal profit. Had he not done so, they would still be wrestling. His projecting the blame to the University is ridiculous. He is the one responsible for ruining these kids careers. Period. Nice job, buddy.

EDITOR DAVE: What if, and this is strictly hypothetical on our part, what if they approached the studio and were not recruited?

Now that the genie is out of the bottle, FratmenTV has placed their face shots back on the site.

Sorry Face pic's only on members side.

Not Surprised as a long-time member of Fratmen and Fratpad I can tell you that there is NOT ANY WAY IN HELL that John or Jasun would have leaked that. Those guys have gone to such crazy lengths to protect their Fratmen. Remember that they moved the whole Fratpad operation to some Island to keep them away from stalkers? How they silence anyone who tries to give out Fratmen's real names?

Since this story "broke" Fratmen has taken Nash and Cal off the preview of Fratmen.TV, taken the DVDs off the site and have had the pictures removed from every site from Out Sports to Perez Hilton. If they were out for a buck, they would have sent out a big email and promo with "HERE THEY ARE!!!" but they've been very quiet behind the scenes and all John's done is talk a bit to the media to try to explain why this isn't a big deal and people should just lay off.

John has been working with the NCAA to try to keep the guys wrestling and has done anything he can do. That's the John I know. The one who treats those guys like his own family. I think it's more likely that the person who leaked it is whoever set up that obvious stalker-page thescarletproject.wordpress.com which only has three posts on it, two about this. Looks like it was set up by some bitter loser who lost a wrestling match.

highly douted fratmen.tv had anything to do with it... if you followed this story from the start they said who dimed this guys out (a local blog from the Univ.)

I'm a member of fratmen and like QC said they are stand up guys...

I would like to know if they were asked or if they approached FTV. I get the feeling that they approached FTV. To get one of them would I would say that some recruiting was done but for two. Now if these guys live together and know each other’s business then one might tell the other what he is about to do and the other may want to get some of that money also.

I did notice by looking at both videos that “Cal” was not filmed in the same location as “Nash” so I don’t think that they filmed them at the same time/day.

Have the boys given a statement? Are they going to complete school? FTV should post an interview with them both.

if..... if was a fith of liquor we all would be drunk....

bottom line those boys knew what they where doing,(no excuse) for those passin judgement.....STOP!

GO TO BED AND GET SOME REST!!! and if it bothers you so much dont comment...

see there.... easy fix.... i'm brilliant!!!!

FRATMEN RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!

Very sad. I hope others learn from their mistake and think before doing porn. On the other hand, the jerkoff coach could have made a softer statement and wished them well, especially after all these boys have done for them (winning national titles). Nasty homophobe bastards. the thing is, these boys are probably not even gay. They were just having stupid fun, and I emphasize the word stupid. They did break the rules about not being paid commercially or putting their images up on a commercial venture. I hope the boys can rebound quickly and resume their promising futures.

@jim -- "This is a clear violation" of which NCAA bylaw(s)? Please cite the language and explain how it applies in this case.

calling the guys who run Fratmen "stand up guys" is laughable at best. and i imagine if i ran a blog where i had a working relationship with the owners of said site i would feel obligated to call them "stand up guys" as well.

Fratmen are at the VERY top of the long list of sites that turn "straight" into a marketing ploy and exploit heterosexism and homosexuality. what's even FUNNIER about this is that some of their representatives go around bashing other sites for doing the same thing, claiming that it's wrong to use "straightness" as a marketing ploy and claiming that Fratmen doesn't participate in this sort of practice. ummmm, hello - the whole "straight" thing is all over their image and is the trademark of their product.

the guys at Fratmen have built an entire legacy on claiming to have "real" straight guys, exclusive straight guys - and then, above and beyond any other site - they actually have friggen pay-per-view events of these supposed straight guys experiencing their first taste of manlove. and the price of these events??? oh please, give me a friggen break here people.

the most hypocritical thing of all this is that representatives from Fratmen have claimed all along that they are not a "hardcore" gay sex website...that they are just selling the beauty of the male body in and of itself and if someone is looking for more than that then they should look elsewhere, because it's simply not the Fratmen way. if that were true, why is the most EXPENSIVE aspect of their site the pay-per-view shows where they offer JUST THAT? maybe i don't understand business but i'm pretty sure that companies put the largest price tags on their real items and lower price tags on just the appetizers. considering the price of the pay-per-view shows it's pretty easy to figure out they're not the friggen appetizers.

Fratmen are not "standup guys" IMHO. they simply take whatever steps are required to 'protect' and pamper the models whose sexuality they are exploiting in order to fulfill their own fantasies and score huge profits from their members, who they are ALSO exploiting.

unfortunately the majority of fans/members/whathaveyou are so quick to fall all over themselves to stand up for practices such as these with respones like "it's just porn" or "but the guys are hot" or "get over yourself" in defense of the destructive force that has become the marketability of "straight".

at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if it's just porn...it doesn't matter if the guys are hot...and it doesn't matter if i get over myself. what matters is that we are all sitting back and allowing them to turn "straightness" into a commodity that we're so quick to buy because, as we all know, gayness is worth nothing, if not for the fact that we don't ALL demand it be worth anything.

Fratmen are NOT stand up guys.

Has this post made history yet?

Just wondering QC editor?

@midwest - "...QC says it kept out private info. on the guys, which I greatly respect, but the tatoos reveal personal info. and SHOULD NOT be shown (which is why Fratmen tried to hide them in the shooting of the vids)..."

Yes. Case in point. FM made a conscience effort to NOT publicize any direct outside affiliations AND the wrestlers made no direct endorsements or promotions here.

Do the NCAA bylaws prohibit a student-athlete from being a student-actor from performing nude in a commercial production of Equus during summer break ??

For those upset about the matter..... please post elsewhere.....

The funny thing about it all...the ones upset about all of this are members..... (thats tickles me)

tks

Nico

I would like to here from the boy's. Would like to let them know that this is not the end of their world, just a slight change in plans.

Why can't they just change the wrestling rules by banning clothed athletes - just like the classical Greeks did. A win-win situation for everybody.

To all the long-winded whiners blaming Fratmen.TV for what happened to these guys, FUCK OFF ALREADY. One of the guys has taken responsibility for making a bad decision and has accepted the consequences.

If you think porn producers are horrible victimizers, WHY ARE YOU HERE (hypocrites)? They're opportunists, just like us.

I've known porn producers and recruiters here in Denver (yep, gays love boys from the heartland). The slimy ones are easy to spot. Most of the rest are just trying to grab some bucks (no pun intended), and the guys who come their way are willing and eager to flash their flesh.

And I'm thrilled they do it.

But many 20-somethings live with a mindset of unlimited possibilities and no consideration of consequences.

Looks like Nash wants to go to another school. Let's see if FTV will be "stand-up" and take down the videos so that both these young men can complete their education and wrestling career.
They both know that they f--d up so we do not need to go there.

Good luck to both of them.

Isn't it true if the models don't want their video still up that the studio takes their stuff down? I know SeanCody has done that in the past. There are missing videos from models and I can only guess those models had a change of mind and asked to SeanCody to take them down.

Guy's, You have the goods. You have already made huge inroad into the adult market place. And your test results are as high as they come. Thus why not make it pay. Heck you can more then make up the lost athletic scholarship from doing more adult work. You both took the hardest step-the first one. Your calling card has been made and you have the marketplace in front of you waiting and they are more than willing to pay !

I salute CAL......GOOD JOB ON MANNING UP TO WHAT YOU DID....

Thats goes along way with me.......

People understand!!! taking it down does nothing its still gonna be there....

From the dvd being sold (which fratmen has pulled there dvd) and many ppl downloading the video from the site and alot of ppl are saving photos from the site.

So why take it down? (the damage is already done).

IS NASH GOING TO COMMENT? J/W

Message to the editor.... Nash has also spoken as well

http://www.mlive.com/flintjournal/sports/index.ssf/2008/08/dismissed_davison_wrestler_pla.html

Reached by phone Thursday, Donahoe, a two-time All-American and 2007 NCAA Champion, said he is leaving the school.

"I can tell you that I am transferring and will wrestle next year," he said. "That's all I want to say now."

This is just sad that they are firing the two wresters because they posed for a gay site. If it were Playgirl that they posed for... it will prolly not be that big of a deal.

That Nash guy is prolly the cutest person ever featured here in QC.

Cal and Nash dont give it..... Somebody will pick you guys up.(wrestling wise)

Let's get real, go through that college campus and find every student's myspace page etc and show the school how many of their students have naked pictures, nasty comments, or stuff!!!!

these guys did nothing wrong, except try to get by and have fun too!

Its all fucking politics and bureaucratic bullshit. God only knows what skeletons Mark Manning and the suits of the university have lurking in their bolted down closets. We all have something, these two just had the misfortune of being recognized by some loud-mouthed queen. There's a certain higher-up here in Philly who dipped his dick in the porn pool about fifteen years ago, but its just not talked about. We do what we HAVE to sometimes, and at the end of the day it won't--SHOULDN'T matter...

As long as they're of legal age it shouldn't matter what they choose to do with their free time in their personal life.

I just joined and its worth EVERY penny!!! there are alot of hotties on there.

Just letting everybody know its worth it...

Anyone remember Vanessa Williams' past - stripped of her Miss America title - attacked on every side. I'd say she has had the last laugh from hit records to a high profile marriage to her top rated TV show Ugly Betty. I just hope Paul is trying to get an agent b/c with the press he has rec'd - I'd say he could have a very bright and lucrative future. 90% of the struggling actors in Hollywood would kill to trade places with him right now.
Funny thing - in Europe - no one would have cared.

If all the blah blah blah is done, can i please have Paul now?

Thank you.

(And if you'll notice, i did say the Magic Word!)

let the boys wrestle....this is getting to be BS!!!!!!!!

I admire the fact the boys have shown 'their goods' to the rest of us. And they are just fine looking lads ! If they are ok with the results, I know it's a pain in the ass to switch schools, loose the scholarship and family stuff. But hey you make choices and live with the results.
Now, Paul, since you took the toughest first step. Now lets see more! showcase your fine body and looks ! Lets see you in action. I'll pay for the right !!!!

You know, I have followed this whole thing from here and other media outlets and must say once again...I am floored at the idiotic responses of some people here. Do you really think that this happened because they showed the goods on a gay site? How stupid would that make you to think such a thing? These guys chose to do something that went against the rules and were disciplined for it. Saying that it happened because it was a "gay" thing is ignorant.

If you disagree with this then try this out: Monday or whenever you go back to work, walk into the office or wherever and take a big fat shit on the receptionist's desk in front of everyone. Everyone does it...right? Everyone takes a dump...sometimes more than one a day? It's natural to take a dump. The only difference here is that you did it in front of people instead of hiding it behind close doors right?

When it is all said and done, are they firing you because you broke the rules or because you are gay? In the end, we all know you were fired because you did something deemed inappropriate by the organization you work for / belong to. Same thing here.

I see rules/laws everyday that I think are stupid but that is just the way it is. You can work to change those rules and laws correctly if you choose to as many people do. But please become informed about the issue before you begin running your mouth and talking about what happened when it is painfully obvious that you have no idea what happened. The agreement/contract these guys signed makes it very clear what they can and cannot engage in while they are on these teams playing in a sport governed by this body.

Does anyone remember what happened to Vanessa Williams ** Miss Usa - 19 something something ?

Vanessa Williams is a principle actress on "Ugly Betty" - It would appear that the scandal around her photos so many years ago has disappeared and too will this bru-ha-ha around these two fine young men. I must add that I have watched their videos and there is not one thing I can cum up with to put them down - hot, hot, hot! Such beauty should be celebrated - not punished. Our society is just so hung up - violence in movies but no love making - go figure?

GO Boro! As an alum from Edinboro (so is Sharon Stone) - go NASH!

Scrolling down the endless comments I was thinking the same thing that Rollen posted, so was happy to see his post and know I'm not alone. Ok, it was titallating and scandalous and hot and all those other things we (stereo)typically love as gay men, but people, the show's over. These guys are moving on and so should all of us. Have some respect and dignity and let them live their lives, from here on in, in peace. No more "well it was in that newspaper and on this website, so they're public property..." How about taking a more respectful stand rather than following all the other voyeuristic lemmings?

I am not positive about NCAA rules and regulations but I doubt they will be able to wrestle for one year pending an NCAA investigation as to them doing what they did for money as there is a clause in NCAA regulations stating that athlete's cannot receive monetary denominations or gifts based on a listing of do's and do not's in their code of conduct...just the way it is, I am afraid. Then after that, they probably won't be allowed to wrestle in an NCAA sanctioned events, so who knows what will happen. I wish them the best....I saw Paul Donahoe wrestle for Nebraska on the NCAA final's this past year....he was a 125 lb spitfire that was quick on the mat.

This is crap. They broke their contracts and rules, and how do they get punished? They don't. Just move to another university and hope it all blows over. He's probably taken the place of someone truly deserving.

OK one of them is back in school but what about the other?

I want Nash to remember how a couple of nude photographs destroyed
Vanessa Williams' career and ruined her life. I think Nash's punishment should be to suffer and she suffered. By the way, when was the last time anyone heard from Suzette Charles

Re: The new pics... The name of the wrestling coach is not Tom Osborne-- Osborne's the athletic director at the University of Nebraska, legendary football coach, former GOP Congressman, who now resembles the Cryptkeeper. The name of the coach in the pic can easily be found if you just go to the official Nebraska wrestling website.

In the latest set of pix in the 8-26-08 update, the coach definitely comes across as a boy lover in my opinion.