Ponderosa
I wonder something - why is everything "straight men this, straight men that" all the time? I mean, are we that self-homophobic that we can't be attracted to a man unless he's all "I'M STRAIGHT - I DON'T LIKE DUDES - I MEAN, I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND." Are actual gay men just unlust-worthy? Where have all the hot gay men gone in gay porn? - John
QC reader John sends us the million dollar question. Any thoughts?
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OK, I do have a strong attraction towards straight guys, both in real life and when watching porn. But it's not to the exclusion of gay men. Hot is hot -- straight or gay. However, there's something about "crossing the line" that's a huge turn-on, especially when a guy realizes how awesome it can be. It's always irked me that women are more open minded to gay sex, but recently, for the first time since pre-AIDS, a lot of straight guys seem willing to experiment. And that's a beautiful thing.
I agree. There's no less attractive quality in guy than being straight.
But I think that there's a whole "forbidden fruit" psychology at play... Many people seem to always want something they can't have. And of course, internalized homophobia still plays a big role... If you can still identify as "Men who have sex with men" and not "gay" you can still believe you can have society's approval.
I think there's a strong correlation between fantasy and reality, so the original question does bring up homophobia for a good reason. If we were raised in western society, it's very likely that we are homophobic. Yes, I mean us!
My rule: desire straight men all you want but don't put out for them in real life. Remember the Jenny Jones murder of 1999?
I have wondered if it is the "well, straight people are doing it too so we are not so bad" syndrome. If the straight men are sucking and fucking each other, we gay men are not that different then. I guess I would rather think of gay men. The "forbidden fruit" aspect does not intrigue me.
It's a numbers thing.
For argument's sake, let's say only 0.5% of men in the US wanna do solo or male/male porn, and only half of them have a marketable look. That's an available universe of about 375,000 men.
With only 5% of the population being gay, that leaves about 18,750 gay men interested in doing porn, compared to the remaining 356,250 non-gay men.
Simply put, the universe of non-gay men is more available and offers a greater selection of looks/types.
It's a no-brainer.
A picture cannot tell by itself if the guy being sucked or h/j'ed is straight or gay, and I just can't care less... and to tell you the truth, most of those "He's an ex-marine, straight and came right away from having sex with two bimbos before shooting..." comments are ridiculous! and are intended just to tickle your imagination... porn is porn... if the model shows a boner he is enjoying it, period!
I agree, for me its the notion or idea that the person is straight that is the turn on. Having said that I am usually attracted to the more macho type anyway, so perhaps its just a personal taste thing - for me I'm not particularly turned on by effeminate guys, although one of my best friends is the biggest queen around - just no sexual chemistry between us. So yes again I have to agree with some of the previous posts that there is a strong element of marketing gamibit in there, and lets face it - porn is all about turning the customer on, so if it works then why not? I guess it's all down to whatever cranks your handle!
My own experience tells me that, very (VERY) basically, gay guys fall into three categories: 1) Effeminate, to some degree ... 2) Trying too hard to "butch it up" ... and 3) Regular guys.
As a bisexual, when I want to play with someone who behaves in a feminine manner, I'll find a woman who wants to play. Feminine women turn me on to no end. But effeminate men, even those who make great buddies, just don't turn me on when it comes to getting down and nekkid.
As for the ones who try too hard NOT to be fems, this also doesn't work for me. Put-on butch facial expressions, and leather cap-and-strap outfits, are humorous to my eyes.
Finally, there simply aren't enough "regular guys" who just happen to be gay. (Although I've been with mine for nearly 30 years now.)
So yeah, I have always loved to seduce guys who are "straight but curious" or "straight but willing to learn".
Right now, I have a very hot, married-with-kids, 36-year-old fireman who likes to have a beer or two and play around. I couldn't ask for a sexier dude. He doesn't have to work at his masculinity. It's totally natural to him.
Flame away, girls. But (to borrow a phrase from the Peter Gabriel-era Genesis), I know what I like ... and I like what I know.
From my experience, the whole "fascination with straight guys" thing-- and all porn or real-life sex for that matter-- all boils down to one thing: It ain't hot if the guy's not into it.
There's nothing hotter than hooking up with a (supposed) straight guy who has a head full of "forbidden" gay fantasies, but has never acted on them or is just starting to act on them. The turn on is watching their initial nervous tension turn into play, self-discovery, and ultimately getting totally into it. From personal experience the consistent favorite has been the lesson entitled "Meet Mr. Prostate". Watching them go through the roof as they get their first prostate massage is hot hot hot! Afterward, they are soooo grateful... like I just handed them the keys to a new Ferrari or something. (And they’re going straight home to spread the gospel of Mr. Prostate far and wide. All puns intended.)
On the opposite end of the spectrum, whether it's "gay for pay" or "gay for gay", are the guys who are going through the motions, but just aren't into it. In porn there's no bigger downer than a guy with a semi-hard and a gazing-off-into-the-distance attitude, going at it like he's just punching out doughnuts and his shift is over at 5PM.
So because of their experience and the "into it" factor, gays are definitely (usually) hotter. But the occasional straight guy (the minority of them in my opinion) for the reasons stated above, gets lots of points for the "innocence lost/self-discovery" aspect of it.
I've been pleasantly surprised to find all of these sites with "straight" men having gay sex, mostly because a lot of them are very hot and butch and clearly able to get hard with another man.
I also believe that some of them are actually gay beneath it all, but not yet ready to come out in any other way but through this guise of doing it for money. Some may be exhibitionists with a bisexual streak. Most, however, in my humble opinion, are simply doing what men have done throughout the ages: having sex with other men without considering it to be reflective of their identity; rather, it is simply them getting their rocks off with a warm, willing body. Initial reluctance gives way to wet mouths and strong hands, blood surges and their heterosexuality is put on temporary hold while they seek to satisfy their drives. I enjoy watching them and hope they continue to thrive on my computer.
I would agree, however, that some sites throw the term "straight" about just as product advertisers dish out white lies such as "new and improved", "low fat", etc. Take it with a grain of salt: if the guy appears straight and that's what you want to see, then go for it. If you think they're lying to you, write them a bitchy email and stop frequenting the site.
Thanks for introducing a great topic.
Because it's what the marketers think we want.
Ever notice how most everything on the Net says "Boys"? Very few Gay men actually like boys,
they like MEN.But search the web , and most pop- ups bombard you with "Boys".
I've had many experiences with "straight" men.
They don't know what they are doing , and they
can't seem to enjoy their bodies. And , they are certainly not male "marriage" material.
So, a great looking man is a great looking man whether Gay or Straight - we love looking at all of them. Gay men are just better at sex, love , and everything that goes with it.
I am a firm believer that men who participate in gay sex on film are a little something left of straight. Most straight men I know wouldn't let some guy fuck them up the ass for any amount of money.
Its all about marketting, which is sad. Once again gay men are being told to aspire to something that is impossible: the straight gay man.
Well, the thing is about the "numbers" thing - yes, I agree - but it's going way beyond just mere statistics. I mean, all these guys being hetero is made into such a huge deal, like "STRAIGHT MEN!" are extra-orgasmic. And I think that's because of homophobic, that gay men are seen as unappealing and negative - and that straight men are truly "masculine" or whatever else.
Plus, you always see this in the gay world - "Oh, he's so straight-acting." Such bullshit.
I want a man who wants me back, not someone who's been paid to have gay sex, or might enjoy it physically but aren't into guys, really. Granted porn is *fantasy* - so I'm not expecting to date or have sex with any of the men, gay or not - but why is it that our fantasies are so anti-gay?
I didn't read all of the comments, (too many for my eyes..lol) so ignore if I reiterate. Ultimately, the terms "gay, bi, tri, straight, etc." are labels. They are NOT physical features that one can identify. Thus, what one calls themselves is irrelevant to me. I'm more concerned with personality, occasionally looks, and most importantly, how one interacts with me.
I think what is wrong with every human being is that we want what we can't have. For gays are some gorgeous straight guy, we love the impossible!!! SAD, SAD, but true.
I agree with the "statistics" comment, re:numbers, and additionally, "straight" men are a bit less conformist than the gay men I personally know. It seems many gay men accept their prefab-ulous personality without a struggle. "straight" guys generally lack the whole clone vibe-- and variety appeals to the male taste for new and exciting.
Well ... when I was growing up I was told that the media portrayed gay men in a negative stereotypical fashion. I believed that when I got out of my small town I would meet a fascinating mix of men that "happened to be gay". Unfortunately I've found that the media was generous at best.
I always say that my primary attraction is based on masculinity ... hence the homosexuality! But for whatever reason gay men just are not masculine. I don't want to sound attacking hell I'm a fruit too - just thought I'd throw out this comment seeing as I was just thinking about this. All gay men have a feminine energy hence their desire for men - but that doesn't make me attracted to feminine energy.
Thoughts?
[and don't start preaching about internalized homophobia - it's such a silly card]
well, the answer for this is very simple. yes, there hot gays ard & some of those supposingly straight could have been already gay like Patrick & Dylan in sean cody if you haven't notice he enjoy himself so much with his anal being penetrate. the thing about this straight-thingy is that it fulfilled the mentality of grass is always greener on the other side(what you cannot have you think are always better/nicer), sour-graping(deflowering straight boys, need i say more) & stranger have the nicer candy. but in any case i always keep my finger-cross when they say they are straight, as long as they are hot/nude who cares if they are straight or gay.