UPDATE: Dean Coxx, Aaron James And Kurt Wild Talk Gay-For-Pay
UPDATE (1/28): We got footage from the show after the jump. Take a look and let us know what you think...
ORIGINAL POST: Thursday on the Tyra Banks show otherwise heterosexual porn actors Dean Coxx, Aaron James and Kurt Wild discussed "gay for pay" pornography asking the scandalous question (for straights) "Would your guy go gay-for-pay?" QC recently stated its position on the matter (with regards to Pat Bateman's preferred method of reading) and came out proudly in support of gay-for-pay actors.
As we said, the more the merrier and who gives a damn about labels? But Tyra's decided to mull over the question for shock and ratings, so whatevs... at least she chose three of our favorites for her panel. You gotta love all the shameful and uncomfortable looks on people's faces in the preview. We found a brief clip with Tyra talking to Dean Coxx and his girlfriend and a video of AJ and Kurt doing interview with CollegeDudes247.com after the jump!
Aaron James on QC:
AJ Fucks Dillon at CollegeDudes247.com
AJ Fucks Kurt at CollegeDudes247.com
AJ Fucks Ian at CollegeDudes247.com
Aaron James Fucks Thor Martin at CollegeDudes247.com
Aaron James and Tommy Defendi Fuck The Pledge at CollegeDudes247.com
Aaron James Fucks Luke Stevens at CollegeDudes247.com
Aaron James Fucks Dean Carter at CollegeDudes247.com
AJ Fucks Dillon at CollegeDudes247.com
Kurt Wild on QC:
XXX Amateur Hour: Kurt Wild
Yahoo Accidentally Deletes Kurt Wild Fan Club
Dirty Bird Pictures: Kurt Wild and Steve Oliver
College Dudes 247: Tim Vander Fucks Kurt Wild
Kurt Wild Threatens Subway Boycot For Porn-Related Firing!
Just The Sex: Kurt Wild and Brent Corrigan at DirtyBirdPictures.com
Troy Gabriel Fucks Kurt Wild at CollegeDudes247.com
Kurt Wild at Studio2000Video.com
Kurt Wild at MenMachine.com
Cory Flynt Fucks Kurt Wild at CollegeDudes247.com
A QC Kurt-rospective
Kurt Wild at MenMachine.com
Shane Fucks Kurt at CollegeDudes247.com
Dean Coxx on QC:
Club Dean: Dean Coxx Bottoms
All we gotta say is that Dean Coxx's girlfriend seems pretty open-minded and down to earth. We're not so sure if a man who goes gay-for-pay can be called completely heterosexual, but we don't really mind. We agree with her—sexuality is fluid and it's best to go with the flow instead of fighting it.
We're not sure if you've seen the CollegeDudes247.com video of AJ and Kurt fucking but it's mega-fucking hot. Not only are both boys sculpted with nice asses and big dicks, but AJ's a confident top who fucks Kurt fast, hard, and for a long time. Kurt can't help but moan and blush. Meanwhile, AJ also enjoys getting rimmed and having his dick sucked... something for everybody!
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UPDATE (1/28): We located some clips from the show. Take a look and let us know what you think...
Wonder what it takes for a "straight" guy to do gay-for pay? Let Aaron kill all the joy by reducing hot man-on-man sex to a purely economic and chemical process. Ahhhh... The future is here!
According to former escort, Matt Sanchez, the ghosts of gay pornography past could rise up and haunt these young horse-hung fuckstuds. Kurt Wild already knows that from his firing from Subway. Meanwhile, The Advocate's Sean Kennedy thinks gay-for-pay lets straight men play gay without having to pay the social cost. We're not sure that we agree with him, but it's an interesting argument.
Who knew that straight men who do other guys in the butt and mouth keep us safe from drugs, hookers, and overpriced cocktails? Yet another reason to get down on your knees and thank these men (before letting them unload on your face).
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What is the Tyra's problem? :D:D She's very agressive...
Dean Coxx is just being an attention whore. I doubt it very highly if he's straight or even bi.
I've seen his gay videos (including the orgies) and he clearly enjoys every minute of it.
what is so hard about gay-for-pay porn actors just admitting that they are bi, instead of this bullshit, "I'm straight, but gay-for-pay?" Is that so hard?
Its amusing how guys (or editors) say labels are meaningless but yet they're the very first ones to label a guy "straight" to play into the gay 4 pay fantasy. If labels truly don't matter then why be so quick to call all of these obviously not-straight guys "straight"?
Seems the only labels that actually don't matter are bi/gay labels. The "straight" label seems to be cherished.
The fact that these guys (and the people who buy into this fantasy) have no problem with proudly being identified basically as male prostitutes but not as gay or bisexual speaks volumes about the internalized homophobia of members of the LGBTQ community. Even Dean's girlfriend is like "dude, I love you but come on, I know you like the cock too. And it's ok."
And Kurt Wild? If he's not at the very least, bisexual, someone throw him a lifetime achievement Oscar because he is the greatest actor of all time.
Guys, I think you're missing the point here. It's not whether they are straight, we all know that they are gay men, but why they feel the need to lie. They obviously feel disgusted and ashamed to be gay, and thus have to create all these false illusions and condition themselves to be straight and pepetuate the lie they are straight. Sadly this is due to the world we live in when gay men cannot be open and must continually lie and deceive for fear of rejection or ridicule. Weak, pathetic men and on some level I am glad they do not admit to being gay, we don't need spineless prostitutes degrading who we are.
It's amazing they would think prosituting themselves out would be the 'lesser evil' to admitting you're gay. Really sad.
QUEERCLICK, stop insulting my intelligence with this homophobic bullshit. These guys are cleary BISEXUAL. I am not turned on by a guy who denies his homo/bisexuality. Or your deceitful "straight" worship.
EDITOR D: And you my dear should stop insulting everyone else.
The problem with Tyra, her audience and most people who posted here is that they're all moralistic and stuck up with their own hung ups on these guys calling themselves straight. Tyra makes it sound like it's a bad thing to be gay at the same time declaring the gays love her and right back. It's all hypocrisy to me. Regardless of sexual orientation, everyone loves porn and damned if you do, somebody's got to do it. If they say they're straight, shut up and let it go. It's none of your business to say whose gay or straight. Just let them be. Just like you want everyone to let you be for being gay.
The Advocate editor guest on the show trying to appear intelligent and lamenting that the gay community doesn't face the same discrimination that the gay for pay boys do is himself discriminating the boys by saying they take advantage of the gays for the pay. Well hello! It's a dog eat dog world out there. Everyone is taking advantage of everyone. This is porn. Everyone is being taken advantage for it.
Gay for pay is here to stay. Get used to it. A lot of gays like it too.
So get of your high horse and do the whoring yourself so you could feel what it's like to be in their shoes.
Take the case of Kurt Wild who was fired from Subway because a customer recognized him and doesn't want to eat there maybe because he thinks Kurt's gonna put cum on his sandwich instead of mayonnaise. The fact that the person recognized Kurt in the first place screams hypocrite to me. I mean how would you know if you don't watch gay porn in the first place. Stupid.
So stop all your hypocrisy and enjoy your porn. At the end of the day, ALL OF US just wants to get off anyway.
I saw this episode when it aired and I thought that of all of the guests on the panel, Aaron james was the most intelligent in his reasonings for doing what he does. Kurt Wild, straight? Yeah, okay. Sure he may have a wife and kids stashed somewhere, but I've seen MANY of his scenes and that is not the work of someone merely going through the motions...he loves every minute of a dick inside of him. So if it were his intention to pass himself off as a straight man going to work and collecting a check, he failed miserably. I like what the editor of The Advocate said though, that these "straight guys" play act gay, but have the advantage of taking it off at the end of the day, whereas men who identify as gay, are gay 24-7.
This is actually pretty infuriating. Never be ashamed of what or who you are. If you like dick fine but don't skirt the facts and truth hiding behind false labels. I'd personally never buy a guys website knowing that he openly lied about his sexuality; no matter how hot he is.
I think the whole episode was poor.
Tyra conducted herself like a nosey flake for most of the episode.
The audience was only barely cordial, were largely uptight and seemed like they were waiting for someone to offer an opposing opinion to what the, supposed, "gay-4-pay" panelists had to say so that they could cheer for that instead.
Kurt Wild, you almost wanted to feel bad for. In addition to looking like a scared little bunny up there, you could painfully see that he’s gay and almost agonizingly trying to cover it up.
Aaron James came off pretentious, defensive and not nice. At one point he was rolling his eyes and staring up at the lights.
Dean Coxx was a real meathead, backed himself into a corner with what he had to say, and really offered nothing useful to this already struggling topic…although I did like how his girlfriend called him out as not being as straight as he insists.
The news reporter from the Advocate was pesky and fecklessly critical.
I have no idea why they invited the former female porn star. She served zero purpose, and said almost nothing.
Matt Sanchez seemed like a worthy guest; like he may have had something pertinent to add—but with the show being so shallow and shoddy, it didn’t really resonate.
Oddly enough the straight bar tenders who worked gay bars were probably more appealing than most of the others, if only because they were the most believable and didn’t seem like they were making excuses or putting on heirs about they do.
Overall, a pretty low brow episode that failed to inspire much interesting conversation, and ultimately went no where.
Ugh why do people insist that these performers must be bisexual or gay? Not so! Straight women have been doing girl on girl scenes forever now with no problem. Straight women having lesbian sex has always been the norm in straight porn and has always been more acceptable. But today a lot of stigmas about gay sex have disappeared and we now have completely straight guys jacking off for other guys, getting sucked off by gay guys, fucking guys etc. HOT and revolutionary! Sadly, a lot of the contempt about straight guys in gay porn, is coming from the gay community itself! Perhaps a lot of gay mens brains have been wired to believe that gay sex is so horrifying that no way a straight man would ever do such a thing. Total bullshit! I've known tons of gay people that have had sex with members of the opposite sex and not for a moment would I say or think that they are straight! Fucking or sucking does not necessarily define who you are; anyone can do it. I've seen guys in porn fuck a watermelon, how the hell would we define that? It's what's in your head that ultimately defines your sexuality! So if a straight guy wants to fuck a gay guy and be thinking about a pussy, more power to him! Actually more power to the gay guy cuz trust me there ain't nothing hotter than having sex with a straight guy!
Does sexuality being Fluid mean that there are no rules when it comes to a persons sexuality? I wish someone would explain exactly what this statement means. People should do what they want, but I think these guys are "BI" not 100% straight.
Does anyone acutally believe Kurt Wild does porn to entertain gay men, keep them out of sex clubs and away from drugs?
They may be bi or gay but then again they might be 100% straight. What's so challenging about that thought? If I got offered a shit load of money to screw women on film and did it, would that make me bi? No, I'm still gayer than a rainbow. I can totally accept that there are some men that are completely straight and do gay porn for the money.
Hey, those guys can say their straight as much as they want.
But I've seen them videos, and them moaning and blushing ain't fake.
Oh not to mention the huge cock in their ass.
will all of you shut up alredy! Tyra wants ratings on her show - Dean wants people checking out his website - none of the actual things they discuss matters thats all it comes down to. So he says he is straight so what - thats his right to say whatever he wants I would not force anyone to out themselves if they really felt strongly about not doing it
Men who have sex with women are straight. Men who have sex with men are. Men who have sex with men and women are bi. These guys are either gay or bi. They are not straight.
I love kurt, ill beleive anything he says, who can resist that pretty boy face?
If Kurt's got a fan club, I wanna join! Gay or straight, he's the kind of fuckin' adorable breeder we need more of! I was disappointed to hear he's 'gay-for-pay' but few of us ever get to enjoy of jobs as much as he appears to...And I hope he really does enjoy it. He comes across more intensely sexual than most I've seen in porn and is both a son and father to be proud of. I hope he'll be able to bring his kids up in a way that when they see his videos, they're in awe of how great their dad is and will learn to enjoy their sexuality as much as he does.
I agree with Cris.
Who cares whether they are straight, bisexual or homosexual. Really, it's none of your business what they do personally. You watch them have sex with men, you get off... That's where you're interest in these people ends. You aren't going to meet them (most likely), you aren't affected by whether they are gay or not, and you certainly aren't going to have sex with them (unless you pay).
I used to work for a Gay organization that united students across University Campuses. It disgusts me how judgmental some of the gay community is of everyone that does not fit into what they think gay should be. The gay community has less and less significance every day because men like you can't get over yourselves, and be open to how others feel. We are all individuals who can act how we wish, and that includes being straight and doing gay porn. Not every person fits into the mold of the gay stereotypes!
Get over yourselves. If you don't like these guys, then don't watch their porn.
Hmm... it seems Sean has not properly done his research. The reason why porn is allowed in the US and not considered "too" obscene to be allowed is because of those benefits. I sincerely doubt that the average person who watches porn does crystal meth or engages in orgies (protected or otherwise). I know personally, orgies are a complete turn-off for me...
I do not understand why these guys don't call themselves "Ambisexual" Rather than Gay, Straight or Bi they can just say they enjoy sex with men and women.
In my opinion to make claims they do this strictly for the money is sort of foolish and degrading.
What I find absurd are the assertions of someone like Kurt Wild who says on Television "I think of 'things' during sex" Anyone who has seen his "work" can see this is not acting. This guy is really having fun. My buddy got nailed by Barrett Long and it was a challenge for him. Kurt on the other hand not only took this Monster Cock with ease ... he begged for more, stayed hard through most of the session and in one scene shoots his own load in his mouth while being pounded and then takes Long's load all over his face, mouth, etc. This isn't gay for pay. This is getting paid for something he enjoys. Sounds like a good payday to me!
Kurt's argyle sweater vest is so cute!
Thanks to Marc, Brad Spitt, Dave, El Marko, Rick and Jason Campbell for sharing your thoughts as I do.
What I'm really saying to others who insists on labels, is that if these guys say they're straights, you don't have to take it personal and be affected by it because it's got nothing to do with you.
It's simply porn and you take it for what it is. Period.
The need to label is some form of bullying or peer pressure to me.
Just because now we're on the other side, doesn't give us the right to force others to say who they really are.
Enough with that. We should just live and let live.
It's an interesting commentary all the way around. Like most other things in this world, especially those decisions that cause some sort of controversy, there are a myriad of opinions. Are they gay, bi, or straight? The only one who can answer that question is the person in question. You can be one of those things and completely NOT active sexually - it doesn't change what you're orientation is. Gay, bi, straight, isn't about WHO you have sex with. It's about who you're attracted to, who you care about, who you fall in love with. We all come to a point in our lives where we identify with a certain sexuality. And whatever WE decide for OURSELVES that that is, then that's OUR truth, regardless of what anyone else may think.
well i think there is a very big difference about sex AND sexual orientation. you have sex, either with a man or woman, to get pleasure! or at least in their case, money! or for any other reasons for the fact! will it be so different when you have sex with a man or a woman? it's orgasm you'll get anyway!
as for sexual orientation, it's just to whom you are attracted to. do you actually have sex with someone because you are attracted to them? some did it for money.. just pure and simple as it is.. money!
so it doesn't mean because they have sex with man, despite their reasons, make them gay or bi. besides, who are we to judge that they should say that their gay/bi because they fell so fuckin' pleased in their videos..? they are, after all, being pleased as well..
As a gay man in my late 20s I will willing say I have no problem with Gay for Pay. I think it is silly for the Advocate guy to get all concerned about it. I will also also say that I have had several straight friends that I grew up (some from mid teens) that I have messed around with. Mostly Oral, some massages. None of them are gay or anything close to it. I think it has more to do about the situation you are in, privacy and just now horny someone is naturally.
I have one friend to this day ( now married ) that maybe once a month I blow him. He doesn't come over for it, it takes me a little effort ( I think he is hot ), but I know him, I know he is a very horny guy, even more than myself. Usually involves porn ( str8 ) , but once I see that he has a lump in his jeans, I just have to, umm, grab it. 70% of the time, he just goes with it, gets harder, and I can unzip, play and have a good time. But, I would say he only cums half of the time by me, usually he finishes himself off. If I get brushed away at the first attempt, then he usually jerks himself off. (which is still fun for me!)
I don't know how to explain this situation. I can say that the there is certainly a bit of awkwardness when I first touch him. But, most of the time, that wonderful sensation of someone grabbing your cock wins out. Its only gone a little beyond a massage and oral a few times, ( I massaged his prostate once ) but now that zone is off limits, at least for now. I also sometimes get to groom the area too :)
But, he doesn't touch me, we never have kissed, when we were a bit younger and he would crash at my house, he would share my bed, but it was more a just being comfortable with me and not wanting to sleep on a couch.
I don't know where I am going with this, but I know that he is certainly straight, but does enjoy a good BJ and a Massage with no strings attached. I know his wife gives the first rarely, and never the second, so maybe its just a void. And if so I am happy to be a void filler! Whats more funny is after we are done, we just go back to being regular friends. Play xbox, veg out, whatever.
Kurt is adorable and I love the way he takes a fuck. If he's just acting, I'm convinced and a fan.
This Tyra show could have been interesting if she wasn't so "wee-wee" "ding-dong" about it. How immature is she?
Why didn't her producers bring up the stuff about the hot wrestlers who got spanked for jacking off on camera.
Too bad Tyra's been in the fashion industry all this time and is still timid around gay stuff.
Go Kurt! I hope you're happy and well, and raising a wonderful family. Wouldn't it be great if it could work out that way?
I'd be willing to guess that the majority of posters here who don't think this is an "issue" are all under 30 (definitely under 40).
Unless you grew up under the oppression of blatant, institutionalized homophobia, you will NEVER get this...because as bad as things still are for us in this country, they have improved--socially at least--dramatically since the 1980s. Those of you in your 20s (for the most part) don't understand or care about those who came before you and went through fucking HELL to try and make being gay "okay."
This 'Advocate', fake-Elton-John guy needs to be quiet for a second.
He sounds so, so... Log Cabin. D:
I have seen many Kurt and Aaron videos. I'm convinced they
enjoy their work! The labels really *don't work.* Reading
these posts, the dominant theme is confusion. We are
either male or female. A person can have a preference
for pasta, and still like steak a lot. A guy can prefer sex
with women, and still like to have sex with guys. My guess
is that many "straight" guys in porn do enjoy the sex, get
paid for it, and then are able to conveniently cut away and
then attempt to live a normal straight life without the
baggage of being labeled gay.
Aaron looked so arrogant in that show. He wasn't clapping and he was trying to sound smart. Eloquent he may have been but he became less charming talking the way he did. But that guy who had his boob licked, he was pretty cute... I didn't know you could do that to bartenders. Anyway, the way many of them answered sounded so fake, if only to save themselves the small remaining dignity they have. I felt like it would've been better if only some of them admitted they did enjoy what they did. It sounded hypocrisy to me. It might be disgusting to people who were watching but it didn't make them look any better trying to deny things...
Dean...is by all means Bi. He has done many vids with him having sex with men. Not to mention his 'start' in the porn world. He seemed to enjoy doing many vids with others guys and willing to be the guy to take it in the ass. So his FAKE attitude is a turn off. For the other guys...there is some level they enjoy sex with men and not just for the money. That would make one sound worse off; than to admit they enjoy it and the money pays well.
If you don't like the 'gay-for-pay' men; don't give them your money. Boycot their vids/web-sites, and appreances at places. When there is no money; they will go away.
The act of sex if different for each person and some can simply enjoy it it with man, woman, or booth.
But by all means...never think a striaght,bi,gay,transgender/sexual or non-sexual person is better than any other person.
If what you do does not bring harm to others...DO IT.
Tyra Banks should not be allowed to be a TV host. She's ignorant, naive, and usually one sided. Seriously, this news isn't worth discussing, it's worth mocking. I hope no one did take this seriously. Tyra's only on TV to spread controversy to gain more popularity. I mean, have you guys seen the issues she's brought up in her past shows? Everytime I watch that show I feel like my mind is rotting. AH! Okay, anyway, she's just another voice in this ignorant world (or at least the city of LA) and she should not be taken seriously.
Here's a thought if people are so hung up with labels, then lets get rid of"gay for pay" why can't it just be here's hot men having hot sex and not make it such a big deal about them being straight? or gay or Bi.
I have no problem with GFP but most of these guys, and mostly anyone else who does GFP should admit they're just curious, and they just want to scratch the itch. I do also think there are actual straight men out there who just need the cash. But guys like Dean...you're defiantly bi-sexual.
I don't have any problem with anybody from any sexual preference doing whatever kind of porn they wish. The reality is that porn is a staged performance, so it is irrelevant what these guys are in real life.
I noticed an underlining issue against these "gay for pay" men for accepting to have sex with as though it was some form of shameful activity. isn't that a little homophobic? and also this guy from the advocate was speaking as though he was the official diplomat from planet gay. I don't remember electing him as my representative.
Some gay men are terrified about the idea of straight men pretending to be gay because it somehow invalidates their own life as real gay people.
These show was homophobic, full of prudish subtext against porn and it is just sad that these guys were not intelligent enough to realize that they wouldn't be given the opportunity for a fair discussion about the topic.
Well besides i am always sad when I am reminded that Kurt is not gay.
I remember seeing Dean Coxx years ago when I used to subscribe to str8collegemen. Dean was the star attraction, he would go out & search for str8 guys & convince them to appear in their videos. At first he was hot but then he started acting very cocky and I got to the point where I would fast forward through the videos he appeared him just because I didnt like his attitude. I was glad when he left. I know he has his own site now & I think he looks freaky. Too much muscle & the weird hairstyle. I dont subscribe to "club dean", never have & never will.
I watch gay porn to jerk off. I don't need to know what the guy's sexual preference is anymore than I need to know what breakfast cereal he prefers.
If he wants to label himself "gay for pay" it doesn't matter weather I buy into it or not. He will believe what he needs to in order to go on.
Tyra Banks is a Twat from way back.
Matt Sanchez is the ted Haggert of gay porn. Yet another asshole.
To Donnie and anybody else who shares his pov. Our youth has nothing to do with how we feel about this non-issue. This is porn. Its strictly for entertainment value. Whether or not an actor is truly the orientation they're representing shouldn't make any RATIONAL person feel one way or another. This is not civil rights, and for you to equate it with such is ridiculous and demeaning to the "fucking HELL" we all have experienced.
As far as their orientations, this is an extreme, but even rape can give a person a physically pleasurable sensation, but that doesn't mean the person is of whatever orientation the act denotes. Straight women have flirted with lesbianism for generations, and NOW all of a sudden gay for pay is supposed to be an issue. This is just another attempt by society to control what is and is not acceptable behavior from men. The world doesn't work in absolutes.
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What a storm in a teacup. I think the shocking revalation heres is Kurt getting fired from Subway for being spotted by some homophobic customer. Shocking that this story has had so little coverage. Homophobia is still rife, but in comparison to racism its pretty much ignored. If Kurt was sacked for being black, there would be outrage and it would be plastered all over the internet and national news, but being sacked for being (perceived to be) gay and he it's pretty much ignored.